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teach you guys the English spoken
Down Under. So, whether you want to
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G'day, guys! What's going on? How are
you going? How's your week been?
Welcome to this episode of Aussie
English.

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Man, guys, it has been a pretty good
week because Noah has finally started
smiling, so my son, Noah, has I don't
know, how old is he now? He must
be... He's almost seven weeks, seven
weeks and a few days and he's finally
started to interact, you know, to get
you in his sight and make eye contact
with, he kind of locks on and you can
see that he's focusing on your face
and then he smiles and reacts to you.

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So, that has finally happened and
made the last six and a half weeks of
no sleep worth it. There was no intro
scene there on this episode, guys,
because I'm going to try and do
something a little bit new today. So,
obviously the expression is 'tit for
tat', 'tit for tat', and I was
thinking ok, 'tit for tat', you know,
what can I do in terms of Aussie
facts and I started looking into
gangs in Australia, you know, like
bikie gangs or a lot of immigrant
gangs that have come to pass through
the years, you know, in Melbourne, in
Sydney and then I thought, alright,
I'll look more into it.

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I found out about a group of people,
a group of gangs, called Push Gangs
in the late eighteen hundreds and, so
I did a whole bunch of research
trying to find out about Push Gangs
and I learnt a whole heap, but I
ended up writing an essay on the
stuff that I'll make the second
episode about and it was just too
long to include in this and the other
annoying thing was just how hard it
was to find information about Push
Gangs online.

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There was the odd article here and
there, but Wikipedia had barely
anything, it had a few references to
them and I had to used some of the
books that I've bought recently in
order to actually learn more about
them. So, fortunately, the books that
I invested in a few months ago about
Australia, Australian slang,
Australian history, helped me out
here. So, they were a good
investment, but yeah we'll talk about
Push Gangs in the next episode.

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Anyway, spiel aside. Welcome, guys!
Welcome to this episode. As usual I
have a joke for you guys and I was
thinking ok, how can I talk about or
how can I find a joke related to
today's expression? And, so I typed
in 'tit joke', some of you guys
probably know where this is going,
and I found this joke, ok? I found it
on Reddit it was really funny, so I
had to include it.

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So a guy says to his friend 'I once
met a girl with twelve nipples'. His
friend says 'that sounds funny', and
the guy replies 'dozen tit?'. 'Dozen
tit'.

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Man, I swear when I found this one
and was reading and I laughed for
like five minutes. Alright, I'm going
to try and explain what's going on
here. So, a guy says to his friend 'I
once met a girl with 12 nipples',
right? The average person has two
nipples. So, 12, that seems like, you
know, that's crazy, right? So nipples
are..how do you explain what a nipple
is? It's that bit of flesh on your
breast or on your pec that for women
the milk comes out of when they're
feeding their babies.

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Ok, that is the nipple okay or teat
if it is an animal. And, so his
friend says in reply 'that sounds
funny,' as in that sounds strange or
weird or, you know, could be
hilarious, funny, and the guy replies
with the pun, the play on words,
'dozen tit', right? And a dozen is
twelve and a tit means breast. It is
another word for, I guess, nipples,
right? It is this sort of synonym
there, but the play on words here is
between dozen tit, like 12 tits, and
the phrase 'doesn't it'. You know, so
that sounds funny, doesn't it, right?

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So, you can say that as a response
when someone says 'that sounds funny'
you could reply, 'yeah, doesn't it?',
right? Doesn't it. Anyway, that's the
pun there. I thought it was
hilarious, and the best part was the
comments on Reddit. This is a website
that has all kinds of forums on it
and you can kind of comment on
different topics when people post
things. It's a really good one for
learning English, get on there,
Reddit.

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So, the top comment in response to
the joke was 'it's breast if you
don't tell this joke anymore. Tits
not very funny'. So, the puns there,
there's two puns there. 'It's breast
if you don't tell this joke anymore',
breast, best, it's best if you don't
do this, and then 'tit's not very
funny', as in 'it's not very funny'.

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Alright, so childish humour, childish
humour aside, today's expression is
'tit for tat', 'tit for tat' and tit
in this sense don't worry does not
mean breast, ok? It means something
else, but this was suggested by Lima
in the Aussie English classroom, good
job, Lima. It's a funny expression,
it's used quite often. We'll go
through what it means, but before
then we'll go through the different
words in the expression.

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So tit. Obviously, as we've said 'tit
could mean breast, right? Informal
slang for breast or nipple and a teat
is a breast or nipple of an animal,
ok? Tit, teat, is that minimal pair
between those two difficult vowels,
right? Like ship and sheep, tit,
teat. A tit can also be a small
sparrow, so if you live somewhere
like Europe in say Britain, you might
see tits all over the place when
you're out doing photography of
birds. And that's because the word
tit comes from the Icelandic word
'titlingur', titlingur', which is
referring to the bird. It's a small
type of sparrow.

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And then lastly, tit could be a
foolish or ineffectual person. So, in
Britain too you might hear slang of
'ah this guy's a real tit', right?
He's an idiot. He's an ineffectual
person, but in this, sense 'tit'
means a blow, a light strike, ok? Tit
and tat both of these mean a blow, a
light strike. So, if I give you a
tit, I give you a tat, it's like I'm
sort of punching you lightly. So,
when you say 'tit for tat' it means a
tit, like a small blow, a small
punch, in exchange for another tat or
another tit, right? Tit for tat.

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Now, the origin of this expression
was really interesting, so I thought
I would research it and there's a
really good website called
phrases.org.uk. So, anytime you guys
want to look up the origin of English
expressions, this is a really good
website. Now, they had a really good
explanation, which I thought I'd just
read out for you guys, ok? Here we
go.

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So, it's tempting to assume that this
little phrase is another way of
saying this for that and in a way it
is. Tit and tat are both the names of
small blows, which originate as tip
and tap. These are recorded by
Charles Duke of Orleans in a book of
poems that he wrote while captive in
England after the Battle of Agincourt
and first published circa 1466 .

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'Strokis grete, not tippe nor tap'.

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I've no idea what that means. The
widespread unconcern about spelling
and pronunciation in the Middle Ages
led to tip tap, tit and tat, all
being variant spellings. John Heywood
appears to be the first to have used
'tit for tat' in the parody 'The
Spider and The Fly', in 1556.

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That is 'tit for tat in this
altrication' (and he means
'altercation'). In the 20th century
'tit for tat' was the source of the
cockney rhyming slang 'titfer',
meaning hat, right? Because 'tat'
rhymes with 'hat', 'titfer' means
hat. Cockney rhyming slang.

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The renowned lexicographer of slang
Eric Partridge listed that in 1930 in
'Songs and Slang of the British
Soldier':

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"Titfer, tit for tat, that is, hat".

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This usage was popularized by the
British comedian Tommy Trinder, who
although he was born several miles
from the sound of Bow Bells in
Streatham, London, and hence not
strictly a cockney, he exemplified
cockney style to most people. He was
rarely seen in public without his
'tit for tat', his hat.

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Most recently still ''tit for tat'
has been used as the name of the
strategy in the classic logic problem
of game theory, The Prisoner's
Dilemma. This strategy, which since
has been applied successfully in many
real life situations, recommends a
like for like retaliation as the most
rewarding response to duplicity by
one's opponent. So, 'tit for tat',
guys. Do you know what the expression
'tit for tat' means?

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A tit for tat is a blow or some other
retaliation in return for an injury
or another. A like for like
retaliation, a counter strike a fair
and equivalent response or it could
be the infliction of an injury or
insult in return for one that you've
received. So, as usual, let's go
through the three different examples
I have here about how I would use the
expression 'tit for tat' in day to
day English, ok?

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So, example number one. This is a
contemporary example, so imagine
you've got two nations that are at
war with each other and you're
probably likely familiar with
Palestine and Israel. They're
probably a pretty good example as
they've been at war for a very long
time. So, these guys are always
making the headlines in the media for
conflicts that seem to flare up every
couple of months. So, Hamas in
Palestine might launch a rocket into
Israel, and then the Israeli army
responds by targeting a certain
military objective in Palestine and
destroying them in return.

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And so, they tend to go tit for tat.
They tend to exchange blows, every
time one of them attacks the other,
they respond with an equivalent
strike, which is tit for tat. They
have a tit for tat exchange.

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Example number two: you're hopeless
with remembering birthdays and this
year you forget your wife's birthday
and she loses the plot, she gets
really upset and she rages up at you,
so hopefully next time you won't
forget. To get even with you she
responds in a tit for tat kind of way
and gets nothing for your birthday
when it finally comes by. So, she
pretends to have forgotten your
birthday and she buys you nothing and
you wake up that morning, she's gone
out for the day, she's left you at
home or by yourself and you realize
she's given you a dose of your own
medicine, she's treating you how you
treat her on her birthday, which is
tit for tat. It's an equivalent
retaliation. Hopefully, you don't
have a wife or husband that's that
vindictive, though.

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Alright, example number three: bikie
gangs. So, in Australia we have a
number of bikie gangs and there's
violence that's quite often
associated with them. So, some of the
most notorious biker groups in
Australia are say the Hells Angels,
the Bandidos, the Comancheros, and if
you're a member from say the Hells
Angels and you attack another group
like the Bandidos or the Comancheros
and bash or stab or shoot someone,
the group that was attacked is forced
to respond in kind and bash stab or
shoot someone in a tit for tat reply.

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So, this often leads to an escalation
in violence and the news might often
report on a spate of tit for tat
attacks between bikie gangs in Sydney
or Melbourne.

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So, there you go, guys! Hopefully now
you understand the expression 'tit
for tat', meaning a blow or some
other retaliation in return for an
injury that you've received from
someone else. So, it's like a counter
strike, a fair or equivalent response
the infliction of injury or insult in
return to one that you've suffered.
So, let's go through a little listen
and repeat exercise, guys, where you
guys can practice your pronunciation
so listen and repeat after me. Ok?
Let's go.

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Tit.

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Tit for.

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Tit for tat x 5

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I responded in a tit for tat manner.

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You responded in a tit for tat
manner.

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He responded in a tit for tat manner.

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She responded in a tit for tat
manner.

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We responded in a tit for tat manner.

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They responded in a tit for tat
manner.

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It responded in a tit for tat manner.

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Good job! There's quite a few things
going on there. So, you might hear
for example: 'I responded in a...'.
There's no real D sound there at the
end of 'responded'. Instead it kind
of becomes a T flap, right? 'I
responded in a...', so that first D
kind of said, but the last one after
ED kind of turns into the T flap,
'responded in a...', 'responded in
a...'.

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And you'll notice for 'tit and tat',
you can say the final T in these
words 'tit for tat'. However, because
in both examples here of tit and tat
the word following each of them
starts with a consonant sound, tit
for tat manner. You don't have to say
that T at the ends of these words and
instead you can mute them, so you'll
hear 'tit for tat', 'tit for tat
manner'.

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So the tongue goes into the T
position, mutes that T and then you
say the next consonant sound. Tit
for, tat manner. And the last thing I
want you to pay attention to is how
the words 'in a' and 'for' get really
sped over, right? We don't really
emphasize them strongly. So, you'll
hear 'I responded in a tit for tat
manner', 'in a tit for tat manner',
so the words kind of disappear, the
vowel sounds get changed to a schwa
and you'll hear that kind of emphasis
and rhythm change in the sentence: 'I
responded in a tit for tat manner.'

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So, let's go through the phrases one
more time.

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I responded in a tit for tat manner.

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You responded in a tit for tat
manner.

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He responded in a tit for tat manner.

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She responded in a tit for tat
manner.

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We responded in a tit for tat manner.

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They responded in a tit for tat
manner.

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It responded in a tit for tat manner.

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Good work, guys! Good work! So,
anyway, that's the end of this
episode. Have a look for the next
episode where we're going to talk all
about push gangs in Australia.

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And this was really interesting. I
actually spent a load of time trying
to piece together heaps of
information from different sources
and write an essay about push gangs
in Australia and a famous guy called
Larry Foley, from who the expression
'as happy as Larry' comes, ok?

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So, we're going to talk about slang
and we'll also talk about that
expression 'as happy as Larry' in the
next episode. I'll see you there,
peace!

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