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Kelly, what are we talking about? You
tell me about this visa, visa stuff
we have to now start freaking out
about, worrying about.

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I freaked out for a few hours, but
then I decided to rationalise it.

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It's not the end of the world, take
it easy.

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No, at least not for us, but a lot of
people it is. I think last year the
government announced that there would
be some changes in the whole sort of
criteria and process of getting
family and sponsor family visas.

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So, this is going to be updated soon,
is it?

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It's coming through on the 17th of
April so, next week.

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Holy crap! One day before my
birthday. What a present!

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And we actually were expecting it to
happen in June, but I don't know why
they decided to...

9
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I think it's probably before the
election that's coming in May, I
would say it's related to that. The
Liberal government probably want the
changes to come through before they
face being pulled out or whatever.

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It is a lot of people by surprise.
You know, people who were like, I
have time to apply for my partner
visa before my current visa expires
and now they have to run with the
applications because what happens is
so, like now, the partner visa
application is the one sort of, one
step job, you have one application,
which is like your sponsor, your
partner application and your
application. So, you need information
from both of you and all the evidence
about the relationship, like black
photos and financial evidence and...

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Postcards, messages from social
media.

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Everything, but the they... it
usually takes, they say, 12 to 20
months out for the whole thing to be
analised.

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Well, they don't exactly, they're not
in a rush, right? They don't really
mind, they're like you'll get it when
you get it.

14
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And it's already seven grand.

15
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Yeah so, seven and a half thousand
dollars to apply.

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To apply.

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So, that's just to submit the
application.

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And if it's refused, you don't get
anything back.

19
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No.

20
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So, it is hard for a lot of families
and you know I can't imagine.

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It's a lot of money and now because
we have a baby and it's not as if I
could just "oh, I'll go back to
Brazil", we have a baby.

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Well, we're sort of stuck between a
rock and a hard place, right? Where
we were expecting to do this, but we
were expecting to have more time to
save up seven and a half thousand
dollars to pay for the visa.

23
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Until next year.

24
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Or the application for the visa
because you're already on one, but
now if things are going to change and
one; it becomes more complicated,
two: it may become more expensive as
well.

25
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So, one of the changes is the price,
there'll be like five point something
percent of like increase in the
price.

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Just 5 percent.

27
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Evelyn okay. Well that's not as bad
as I.

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But the main thing is they divided
the application in two steps, two
processes. The first one is the
sponsor application so, let's say,
using us a as an example. You would
have to apply as a sponsor first,
getting like your financial situation
and police check and everything about
you, say that you're clean, you're
fine you've never done anything
wrong. And then we don't know yet how
long they, how long is going to take
for them to analyze this information,
but let's say six months, you know,
and then after you get approved I can
apply for the Parter Visa card. So,
what happens if your current visa
expires next month, your application
as sponsor doesn't give me a bridging
visa,  doesn't give me any longer
work rights or anything so, I would
have to go back to Brazil and wait
for your application to be approved
and then I would have to come back or
apply offshore and, you know,
finalize the process.

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So, it is hard because affects people
who are like waiting... I have two
months until my visa expires so, I'm
fine, I can you know, I'll get a
bridging visa, I'll apply, I'll save
up. No, if your visa is about to
finish, you don't have time, you have
to leave the country. It's so hard, I
don't know. A lot of people are just
freaking out about it and I did, but
still we have time. So, I'm like ok,
it's going to work, but it's sad for
people who were plaining in the the
last sort of months of their Visa
they currently have and they have to
run with the application.

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Well, that's the hardest part I think
too is that you have to suddenly do
something that's already rather
complicated, but you have to speed up
how quickly you do that as well. So,
you may make mistakes, you may forget
bits.

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Exactly! It's a seven grand mistake.
And if you get it wrong you can, you
know, you can obviously... you can
play again, but it is so stressful
and so yeah it took a lot of people
by surprise and it is hard, I don't
know, and the reason they're doing
this, according to what I've been
reading about it, is to tackle like
domestic violence sort of cases. So,
if you have... you say deterrent,
something against you and you want to
sponsor someone, you're going to
marry someone, you might get refused
because they can refuse you
application straight away like first
thing before I even try to apply for
the partner visa.

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It seems so weird, though, for people
who are Australians, right? Like, if
I'm marrying you, what do you do?
What? They deny you and then you have
to go, I have to go overseas...

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Yeah what they're saying is one;
domestic violence is a big thing
apparently with foreigners. So,
people come to Australia and they get
into those like abusive
relationships.

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With Australians or with each other?

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With Australians, you know what I
mean? And then they get trapped
because they can't leave the country.
They depend on this person because
you know they need the visa to stay
here. They have nothing to go back
home and it's just, it's a whole
thing, it's really complicated, but
anyway.

36
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So, what advice would you have for
people listening who are currently in
a position of thinking about applying
for their permanent residency visa?

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Yeah, I guess if your visa is about
to expire, you don't have much, you
know, you don't have much choice. I
mean, you have to leave the country
and it's better if you do things
like, if you think it through, as
opposed to like running into a dodgy
application, that's going to be
refuse and it's going to cost you
money.

38
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Well, you might get it done sooner,
but it may have less of a chance a of
being a... successfully going
through.

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Yeah. So, let's say, you visa is
expiring next month, you don't have
enough evidence. You don't have, you
know, exactly what they asking for,
because there's quite a lot of paper
work, so it's best, I would say, go
home, save up and apply offshore or
come back when you can, but if you
have time, like in our case, we have,
I think my visa goes until like
December next year so, we have quite
a bit of time to save up and we'll
probably apply by November this year
and I can't imagine they'll take more
than 12 months to approve your
application. I wouldn't have to leave
the country, but for people, you
know, if you're in the same situation
as us, you have more time. Don't
freak out about it, just you know
keep gathering your evidences and
make sure you have everything correct
and save up. It's not cheap.

40
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Far out.

41
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But that's a lot of...next week,
because it's coming through on the
17th, they'll probably release some
sort of guideline or something like
that and..

42
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Well, we'll see, if the government
gets thrown out, the new one comes
in, who knows what will happen then,
it will probably get denied or thrown
back.

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I don't know, but just I just thought
it would be interesting to talk about
it because I know it affects a lot of
people.

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Including us.

45
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Including us.

46
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Hopefully that's helpful. Yeah.

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Alright, well, changing gears, so I
found this the other day on Facebook,
I think someone shared it, tagged me
in it, hatever it was, but Matilda,
an echidna, has been found to have a
crippling ant allergy, so crippling,
that's a really good verb. That's
like, or adjective in this case, it's
as a way of saying that it's like...
it prevents her from moving from
doing a normal thing. She is
crippled, right? By this thing, it's
crippling, it's a crippling pain,
it's a crippling disease, it's a
crippling situation. It's a really
good one, anyway so, what's an
echidna, Kel? How would you explain
what an echidna looks like? To put
you on the spot.

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I don't know how to explain it...

49
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So, it's a monotreme and a monotreme
is a type of mammal that lays eggs
and they don't have breasts. They
don't produce milk like most mammals
do, they they secrete it through
their skin in a location on their
stomach, but it's not like, they
don't have nipples, like marsupials.

50
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Is it that one with spikes?

51
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Yeah. So they're very spiky, they're
like Australia's version of a
hedgehog or a porcupine.

52
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Yeah.

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So these guys are monotremes. They
only eat ants. So, that's why it was
such a weird story because she had
this crippling ant allergy where the
ants that she ate, she was allergic
to and so what happened was that she
was brought in to Hillsville
Sanctuary, which is a zoo that you
can go and visit. It's in Victoria.
It's, I think it's out east, so it's
near Gippsland sort of between
Melbourne and Gippsland, in the town
of Hillsville, but she came in at
like three months old. So she was a
little, what they call a puggle, a
puggle is a baby echidna, a puggle.

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And so, she was weaned off milk from
her parent, her mother and then was
meant to be eating ants and termites,
but suddenly got like really puffy
eyes and had a lot of, you know,
infection on her belly and everything
and so they did some tests and they
found out that she's actually
allergic to ants.

55
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Poor thing. So how come is she alive?

56
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Well, she got a special food
developed by the keepers after they
had done this really specific allergy
tests so, what I'm looking at here is
this video, this image on the on the
article here where there's some
specialty veterinary nurses doing
some tests on her stomach. They had
to shave the hair off they echidna
and then they have to inject certain
substances into the skin to see how
it reacts. And so they obviously
injected some kind of things in the
diet, the ants and the termites
chemicals and that's how they found
it out. But they they made a special
paste that they could feed her
afterwards so, that she can just eat
that now instead of the ants and
she's is fine.

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But she'll never be released in the
wild.

58
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She's in the zoo.

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Ok, good for her!

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Yeah so, I imagine if she got
released into the wild...

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She would die.

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Well, that's it. Well, you know,
vegans don't live very long if they
are release into the wild. I think
she'd be in a bit of trouble, but I
thought that was an amazing story.

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That's so cool! I didn't know animals
would get like food allergies.

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Well I guess to show you would
imagine that animals get a lot of the
same diseases and problems that we
do, right? Imagine, there's probably
hay fever for them. They probably
suffer from cancers like we do,
everything else.

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So, anyway, I thought that was a
story worth sharing. I hope you guys
have seen echidnas and if you haven't
and you're living in Victoria,
especially if you've got little kids,
go check out Victoria's Hillsville
Sanctuary because it's awesome, you
get to see a lot of different native
animals. It's sort of different from
the normal zoo and the Werribee zoo,
but they have a lot of things like
platyplus and echnidas and wombats
and like wedge tailed eagles. It's
really cool, I have to take you there
sometime. Anyway, thanks for joining
us, guys. Hopefully you got a lot out
of this episode and we'll chat to you
again soon.

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Cool, see you next time!

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Kel is going to be bigger next time.

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I don't know if it's possible.

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See you, guys! I'm already really
big.

