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Welcome to this episode, guys! How
are you feeling, Kel?

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Good, how are you?

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Fat. I'm feeling fat, it was a big
dinner. What did you think of it?
This is the first time we've done
that. What did we do?

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We made pizza.

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Oh yeah.

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It was good.

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I know, we were out in Ocean Grove
having ice cream.

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Although, It's quite cold.

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It is but that's the good side of it,
right? If you have ice cream when
it's cold, the ice cream doesn't melt
very quickly. You can walk around and
you know you're all good, it doesn't
fall on to your hands, drip onto your
hands, on to the ground, on your
shirt.

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And it was so cheap! I think because
I'm used to going to Queenscliff,
where the ice cream is like, ten
bucks!

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Well, I think too it was cheap
because it was one scoop, instead of
two like normal...

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And she had like four flavours.

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That's it. We went to an Italian... I
guess it's like a... I don't think it
was really just an ice cream place.
They kind of had all kinds of
delicatessen.

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Like cheese.

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Cheeses, foods, meats, fine meats
from Italy as well and Australia and
other places that you could buy
there, but they had ice cream which
is what drew us into the store. So,
we went in and got the icecream, it
was pretty good.

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Yeah it was good.

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It was good. What did you have? What
was the flavor that you had?

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Vanilla.

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It was vanilla bean, right? And it
was good?

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Yeah it was like, you know, sugar, it
doesn't have much taste, I guess.

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Are you a bit of a vanilla kind of
person, Kel?

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No.

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So, what do we mean? If I call you a
really vanilla person, how would you
explain that?

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It's like tame or like boring.

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Plain, plain is a good way of
thinking about it, right? Plain ice
cream, you think, ice cream, plain
ice cream is vanilla, right? You're
like well, vanilla is actually a
flavor, because it's from the vanilla
bean, you forget. It's not just
plain.

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I I know, I'm as bit reluctant to try
weird things.

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Weird?

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I always go for like chocolate or
like vanilla...

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New things, you're always whinging
about new things. What happened
tonight with the pizza?

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You always have those weird sauces,
like...

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Weird? It was mayonnaise, that's not
weird.

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I don't know.

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You're always whinge about the
different sauces. I love my tomato
sauce. Barbecue sauce. Peri Peri
spicy sauces. I love my jalapenos
sauce, everything. I love it! And Kel
pretty much only ever has tomato
sauce with very specific things,
right?

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Yeah, very specific things.

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You cringe when I have tomato sauce
with Brazilian food like, what is it,
salgados? How would you explain this?
Deep fried food.

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You have it with pão de queijo.

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Which is bread with cheese in it,
it's really good.

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No.

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You've never tried it!

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You can't even try it... you can't
mix those things together.

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It's amazing, It's amazing, I think
pão de queijo, cheese bread, would be
so good, in fact, I tried it,
remember? With Vegemite, that was
brutally awesome.

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But we do have some nice mixtures in
Brazil. People have it with nutella
or doce de leite.

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Which is what?

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White is pretty much condensed milk.

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Condensed milk that's been cooked
into a caramel kinda of...

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It's so good, but I don't know, I'm a
bit more traditional, I guess.

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A bit more vanilla, we'll go with
vanilla. Vanilla is better, there is
nothing wrong with being vanilla,
Kel. Anyway. So, we had pizzas so,
what did we do? We were walking down
the street, walking down the avenue,
walking down the street called The
Terrace in Ocean Grove.

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Well, I walked all the way to the
terrace.

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You can tell that story if you want.

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Because I wanted to do some exercise
and it's getting hard for me because
my belly is heavy and baby is putting
a lot of pressure down there.

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Well, that's something interesting
worth... I mean, it could be an
overshare, could be too much
information, it's not too bad, right?

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Too much information alert.

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But I didn't realize when you're
pregnant the baby grows, you know,
and your belly expands, but then
eventually it drops down lower into
your hips, right? So, I didn't
realize that that happened. I just
thought it just keep growing
outwards, right? But it lowers and
that's what makes it really hard to
walk and move around.

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There is a name for it, I think it's
lighthening, something like that, I'm
quite sure it's lighthening when the
baby drops. My baby hasn't dropped.

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Not yet.

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Not yet.

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Our baby.

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Noah hasn't dropped. You've forgotten
his name already, Noah hasn't
dropped.

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But he is put in a lot of pressure on
like my pelvic bone and it's a weird
feeling.

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I can't imagine that, to be honest.
As a man and as someone who's
obviously never been pregnant, I
can't imagine the kinds of feelings
that you would have inside you,
right? There is a human being there,
he is pushing in different directions
and he's growing. It must be insane.
Are you looking forward to getting
him out of you? Is it gotten to that
point already?

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I am, although it took me a while to
really appreciate being pregnant and
enjoy pregnancy, but now I'm just so
tired. I don't know, I'm enjoying it.
I'm like yeah I have such a beautiful
belly and people are always like oh
you look so nice, but yeah, I guess
because of the discomfort I'm really
over it, I am looking forward to
having him here.

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That's what they always said, right?
Every time I was chatting to my
sister who had a baby more recently,
she got to the end of her pregnancy
and was like just get it the F out of
my body, take this out, I'm over
this, this is so annoying. And then
you meet a few other pregnant women
and they all seem to go through the
same phase towards the end of
pregnancy where they just like get
this out. I'm over it. I'm so over
it.

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I don't know. I can relate to it.
It's just painful, but I guess giving
birth is even more painful.

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I think the most painful part is
going to be having the baby, as in
after the birth.

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You mean like raising a child.

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You got 18 years of pain. I'm sure
the listeners know what I'm talking
about. There's probably a lot of them
with kids out there who are like God
damn, yes, it's difficult but it's
way worse afterwards, way worse.

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But to be honest, when I think about
it, I think having a newborn and a
toddler a home itt's kind of
something I can deal with, but having
a teenager at home scares the...out
of me.

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You can swear, you can swear, scares
the shit out of you, does t?

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I've never been good, I've worked
with teenagers like, I was a study
tutor, in Queensland.

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When you were in charge of a whole
bunch, a whole new level, right? Of
border girls..

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Probably 24 girls.

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And that's even worse. Girls are one
thing, boys boys are another thing,
but I know that teenage girls are
pretty hard to control.

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They are really hard.

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Especially if you're the teacher.

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And it's funny because I look back
and I'm like I don't know how I did
it. Sometimes I see them on social
media whatever, I'm like oh my God,
you were so difficult, it is hard for
me I don't know maybe because my
teenage years or so hard, I was... I
wasn't very social, like, I didn't
have many friends.

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And I think you were a pretty well
behaved teenager.

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Absolutely, absolutely.

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I was not.

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From school, I would go home and that
was pretty much it, like... that was
my wild...

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You animal, partying 24/7 and I
didn't have... I always say that I
had a really late sort of teenage
phase.

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You were a late bloomer, you were
like a flower, you bloomed late.

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I was twenty four something I
started partying, I had a lot of
friends and I was on social media, I
was like oh I'm behaving like a 17
year old, but yeah it was hard. So, I
am now looking forward to having a
teenager at home.

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I think you were definitely a late
bloomer, then. I think I was sort of
the same, I never drank while I was
in high school. I only started
drinking when I was probably 24 and
it was always because I was afraid
that if I had alcohol, it would make
me crazier than I sort of already
was.

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Yeah, you told me some of your
stories and I was like...Jesus!

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I miss some of those toys and make me
laugh so I really would just like a
big group of boys that used to get
together on the weekend some of them
would drink, but I would always be
like ok, I'm pretty wild, you know,
anyway. And it was weird because
looking back it's kind of a
responsible thing to do.

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Absolutely. That's what surprised me,
like most teenagers would be like...
I'm going to drink.

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The problem is that so many of them
would just drink and then pass out,
like getting wasted, vomit...

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But that's the thing, right?

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And I was like... that side of it is
not appealing, but then the funny
thing is I started when I was 24 at
James's birthday, listeners on the
podcast might know James, I've
interviewed him a few times on here.
But I went to one of his birthdays, I
think when he was turning 23 or 24,
and drank for the first time I was
like this is frickin amazing! I feel
so relaxed. I feel amazing! I can
talk to anyone, you know, and that
was like ok, and then...

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Then you stood up.

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Yeah, well, no the first time was
fine because I only had like one or
two drinks and then the next time,
because you're still sort of finding
your limits, I don't know what it's
like for a lot of you guys who were
younger and when you first drank for
the first time, you don't really know
what's going to happen too, right?
There is a bit of a fear there where
when you drink for the first time, as
I'm sure it's the case when you take
drugs for the first time, when you go
to the dentist for the first time,
when you go to the doctor for the
first time, you don't know what's
going to happen so, you kind of, you
kno,  freak out a little bit. You're
like you just take it easy, have a
little bit. So, the next time I think
it was New Year's. I got plastered
and I got trashed because I didn't
know the upper limit. I knew the
lower limit where I'd had two drinks
and I was like I felt good. What
happens if I have four drinks? So, I
just scold them, I had them straight
away and we got to James's, we bought
like I think they were four double
blacks which were like vodka drinks
of some kind and I just drank all of
them in half an hour and was just
wrecked for the rest of the night. I
was out, like I was lying on the
ground. I wasn't misbehaving, but I
couldn't even... because the world
was spinning.

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Absolutely.

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I was so out of it that I just, I
mean I could talk to people, but I
just didn't want to stand up because
I thought I was going to vomit. So, I
lay, I remember lying in a trailer of
dirt that James's dad somehow had
brought in to the garage where
everyone was partying and I was like
look I'm just going to lie down here
in the trailer, guys! Make sure I
don't die. The world's spinning, wake
me up when it's midnight and the
fireworks are going. This is New
Year's. And the funny thing was so
one of my friends woke me up when I
was...It was probably like eleven
thirty so, I'd probably been trashed
for like two hours, three hours. And
he put me up, he picked me up and I
vomited everywhere, but he picked it
up straight away. He used goon box,
right? You know the cardboard that.
the cardboard box that a bag of goon
comes in, for you guys in Australia
might know what goon is, it's that
cask wine, right? You know the wine
you're getting the silver bag.

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Yeah, I love it. It's so good.

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So, that's it, we call that goone.
And he had somehow been drinking that
pulled the bag out of the box and
used the cardboard to scoop my vomit
up and put it in the bin so, that as
soon as I turned around I was like I
could've sworn I just vomited, but
there is nothing there so, cleaned up
and then we went down to the beach. I
had fun. Had New Years and I've never
been that drunk ever again because I
was lile, do not want to go through
that ever again. So, one side it was
kind of a horrible experience, the
other side it was definitely a
positive one because it made me
think, ok... And now, you know, I
barely drink at all.

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Yeah I think for me the first time I
got really drunk it was like a
concert that I went to and I had
vodka as well.

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You're an animal.

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It was gross. I don't remember one
single song they sang..

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That's how good the drinks were.

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Like I just remember because I was so
quiet and I was, you know, really
high... what do you call it? Scores
at school.

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So you did really well at school, you
were well achieving.

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I was well behaved and everything.
So, on that night like I got really
drunk I just remember... everything I
know about this night my friends told
me afterwards, they were like you
were crazy. No one recognized you, I
don't remember, I absolutely don't
remember what happened.

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You must have habit of vodka.

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That was the last time I had vodka, I
don't drink vodka at all. But I got
drunk a few other times and I
remember I went to work absolutely
drunk once and that's when I realized
I'm like I'm 20 plus, I can't keep
doing that, I have responsibilities.

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It's weird you go through university
and I remember the first few years of
university there would always be huge
parties because everyone is of the
legal age where they can drink, they
can obviously, you know, have sex,
they can go to parties and the police
aren't going to arrest them for those
things in and of themselves. Unlike
in high school or something and so, I
remember people always letting loose
at university and that was another
reason I kind of delayed drinking
because I was like this just doesn't
seem appealing to me. Anything can
happen, but yeah, it is funny, but
what do you like drinking now? What
are your favorite drinks even when
you can actually drink?

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I do like beer, you know, especially
in Australia because you have so many
different beers and...

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Did you develop that taste once you
got here or you already liked beer
when you were in Brazil?

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Definitely, I liked it, but in Brazil
you don't drink because you enjoy
beer, you drink because you want to
get drunk.There is nothing to enjoy,
like beer in Brazil is disgusting and
it was just like, I guess, I'm
drinking because everyone else is
drinking and I want to get drunk, but
here I got to taste like different...
You really like IPA, right? So,
that's what I was like...ahhh it's
good!

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Idian Pale Ale are amazing.

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I'm drinking it because, not because
I want to get drunk, I just enjoy
it...

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You will, pretty quick.

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But, you know, it's one of the perks
of getting older. You know your
limits and you're just like...I'll be
fine with one drink.

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You no longer care, right? You're no
longer trying to impress anyone. You
and I are obviously married so, we're
no longer trying to sort of impress
the opposite sex, to try and find a
partner so, there is no pressure, you
know? And that happens quite a lot
like we hang out with some friends
and they're always like Pete, drink!
Drink! And I'll be like no, it's all
good because at the moment I bought a
six pack of beer, a really good beer
that I like which is an IPA, I
believe, and it's sitting on top of
the fridge and I decided just
randomly, I just decided ok, look I'm
going to open that when Noah is born,
you know, I'll have them when he's
born and I just wait so, I haven't
drunk for like two months.

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More than that,  definitely.

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You reckon? More thantwo months. .

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I think it's nice that you have
self-control and people around you
might be like "oh, you should drink,
have just one" and that's when you're
like ok, I'll have one just because
this guy is being like...".

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Well, it's partly that, but I think
it's also a responsibility where
you're pregnant, a lot of these
parties I have to drive to and I
would rather not take the risk of
one; being under the influence, even
a little bit, to the point where I
have to worry about being
breathalysed or having to do a
breatho with the cops and if the
cops, you know, for whatever reason I
was 0.05, obviously if you're drink
and that happens, you're in trouble
but two; yeah, I couldn't. I can't
imagine what would happen, how I
would ever forgive myself if I'd
drunk something and crashed or did
something while you were in the car
whilst pregnant.

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It was funny because I think the only
time you were like ok, I'll have a
glass of wine, on our way back home,
the cops were like...stop! I was
really scared they would test you.

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Let me tell the whole story. So, I
had, I had a glass of wine at lunch
here and we drove home at 6 at night.
So, it was a good six hours after I'd
had the wine, the one glass of wine.
I wasn't exactly going to have that
in my system, but I know what you
mean. I was worried as well, you
always assume the worst, every time
the cops pull you over and you have
to do some, you're always like, oh
crap, you know, is a gun going to
appear in my car? Is a bag of heroin
going to be on the back seat somehow?
What if?

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I'm afraid of cops, I'm afraid of the
police. So, I was like just praying,
just like God please just let us go.
I don't know what I did, but I'm
innocent. I don't like it.

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Oh man, anyway. Yeah, drinking. Well,
hopefully that's a lot of vocab and
interesting conversation about
drinking. I don't think we've spoken
about that a podcast before.

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No, probably not, but...

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So, back to pizzas. I like that
aspect of Australian culture
because... what were your thoughts,
when you first came to Australia,
were you like "where's the
traditional food?".

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Yes.

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I was!

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Because I know now having dived into
the Brazilian culture you have so
many unique Brazil only foods that
are even regional so, you'd go to the
north and you find certain things,
you know, you've got your Brazilian
hot dogs, you've got your beans,
bean, different meals with beans that
you have and rice that you have, the
fried foods that you have are very
unique and different.

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Seafood.

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Yeah, but Australia doesn't really
have it the same way because I think
we are such a melting pot of
different cultures and peoples from
all over the world and it kind of
hasn't stopped long enough, I don't
think for any time for that to
develop, I mean, obviously the
indigenous people in Australia have
very traditional foods, right? We
shouldn't forget them. They have very
traditional foods that are very
specific to their regions and their
cultures, but for the rest of us
who've arrived here more recently,
you know, the British arrived in the
late 1700s and then every 10 to 20
years a different group of people
from a different culture came and so
that's why we have such a mix, but
it's cool because like tonight you
can just go to the supermarket and we
were just like ah screw, we'll just
have pizza, we can buy the bases, we
can buy the tomato paste or source
that we can put on it. We got the
cheese, special cheddar cheese that
we can put on pizzas. We then went to
the delicatessen or the meat deli and
we bought different meats.

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Salami.

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Salami, Peri Peri chicken, you like
your hot salami and then they had a
little area where we could get, what
would you call them? Like pickled
vegetables, right? Like the olives
and sundried tomatoes and then we got
some basil and Kel got some chocolate
as always, not to put on the pizzas.

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No, for dessert.

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And then we came home, put it all
together and put it in the oven and
there you go, wham bam, thank you
ma'am. It was good, it was really
good. I think the only part I didn't
like was that the....

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The olives.

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Olives aren't my thing, but I make
you have so much broccoli so, I had
to eat them. I know they're good for
me.

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I didn't know olives were healthy.

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Well, they're vegetables, right?

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So, yeah, when I got here I was
expecting like ok, now and I try
really traditional Australian food,
but to honest, I don't think I've
ever got used to it, like..

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The food here?

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Yeah, even the three vegetables and
roast things that you guys have...

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Yeah, your meat and three veg, we
call it, meat and three veg, which is
usually carrots, potatoes
and...what's the third one? Broccoli
or something like, pumpkin.

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I enjoy it, but, it feels like
there's something missing, I don't
know.

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Well, that's why you kind of have to
make up your own dishes, right? When
I grow up, When I grew up, sorry,
when I grow up, I still got a lot of
growing to do. When I grew up, when I
was a kid, I remember my parents
would always be cooking Indian food.
They would be cooking Chinese food,
they would be cooking.... They would
have their roasts and, you know, your
more British kind of food, we'd get
things like pizzas, we'd make our own
pizzas, we would buy them as well. We
would get Chinese takeaway, we would
get fish and chips so there would
always be this really wide spread of
different foods there wouldn't be
like this my family has passed down
this one specific recipe of food that
we always have. There's not the same
kind of cultural practice for people
in Australia.

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And I think... I can only speak for
like me and my family, but it's hard
to...especially in a city like São
Luís, which is quite small, unless
you...

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It's the size of Melbourne, guys.
It's got five million people, right?

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No, less than that, one million, or
something.

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That's still pretty bi.

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Anyway. But unless you have a lot of
spare money, you can't really go out
every now and then to have..."I'll
try Chinese food tonight", it's a
luxury so, you have to make do with,
you cook, you cook for yourself and
you have rice and black beans and
beef or chicken and that goes on for
the whole week.

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Well, that's probably part of it
though, right? Like I would imagine,
you know, and it's not to make fun of
Brazil or anything at all, but
countries where the average person
isn't making as much money say
compared to Australia or Britain or
America, people have to grow their
own food or buy a lot of the same
food and then they have to spend
their time cooking it, right? Whereas
obviously for us we have more of an
ability to get more disposable income
and then we can, as soon as you get
disposable income, you're like well,
I'm not spending two hours a day
cooking like, screw that, and so
that's why we go to supermarkets and
restaurants and takeaway food
everywhere. You don't realize like
that's probably the same everywhere
like in Africa, in parts of Asia, a
lot of the people cook local foods
that they have to grow and that's why
it always ends up the same food,
right? Or at least similar because
you grow that stuff locally, but here
you drive around and the there are
farms, but they're pretty much all
sheep and beef farms. There's no
real, canola farms, you might see
wheat, but there's rarely any staple
food like that you know we use every
single day like beans and rice.

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Even with the coffee culture. I mean,
how many times a week we go for
coffee?

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But it's because people can't be
buggered, right? They can't be
screwed doing it at home.

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Again, it's about having disposable
income. Because in Brazil you have
breakfast at home and you probably
take your own lunch to work, because
you're not going to buy food outside.

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It's all about making your life
easier, right? You want to outsource
the things you don't like doing and
you as soon as you get more money
you're more than willing to pay other
people to do the stuff you don't want
to do. So and especially if there's
one guy who can make 1000 coffees in
a sheft and you can just pay him more
than you would if you had to make it
at home. It's kind of a win-win
situation, right? So one of the
interesting things, I was reading a
book recently which is Enlightenment
Now by Steven Pinker and he was
saying what probably the invention
that has helped the most people in
the biggest way in the last hundred
to 200 years is the washing machine
because in the early 90s hundreds of
women spent on average eleven and a
half hours a week, I think it was,
cleaning clothes. How many hours a
week do you think they spend now?

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One.

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One point five.

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Really?

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So, it dropped by, what is that?
Eight times. So, all of a sudden
these women were like, obviously,
thank God, we're willing to spend all
this money on this one machine to do
this thing for us, but now we have an
extra 10 hours a week which is what?
500 hours a year to pour into
something else that can generates an
income that we can then spend the
money on you know outsourcing and
other things so...

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Crazy.

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Yeah, it is interesting. So, it would
be amazing to see what happens with
countries like Brazil in the near
future because, obviously, a lot of
people are moving up, right? They're
starting to make more money, they're
getting into the middle class,
they're getting into the upper class
so, you're going to see a lot of
cultural things potentially drop away
and a lot of new cultural things
like, you know, maybe São Paulo will
become the coffee capital of South
America. You know, anything could
happen.

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It's not that people don't drink
coffee, but Brazil is famous for its
coffee, but at the same time the
average person doesn't have one: time
and two; money to be out, you know,
three times a week having coffee with
friends, you know what I mean?

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That's why it'd be interesting to see
what happens because it's only a
matter of time, right? That Brazil
will be in the same position as
Australia. It might not be in the
next two years, but eventually that's
going to happen, you would imagine
and it'll be interesting to see how
that manifests, right? So, imagine
tomorrow every Brazilian has the same
amount of disposable income as the
average Australian. What are they
going to spend it on? Because they're
going to spend it on something,
whether it's saving them time,
whether it's holidays, whether it's,
you know, protesting against
Bolsonaro, whatever it is, they're
going to spend it on something else.

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Yeah. I hope things improve. Yeah,
but it is a bit different because
even now I've been here for three
years and a little bit, but...

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How you feel after that time? Do you
feel like you've become Australian?

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I don't feel that I've become
Australian, but I feel distant from
Brazil, like I don't know what's
happening in Brazil, I don't watch
Brazilian TV, I don't know anything
you know, really in depth.

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Has that been an active process? Did
you do that intentionally or?

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No, you just get distant, like you
don't talk to the same people
anymore. You don't read, I was a
journalist so, I was always like, I
knew what was happening, but now I'm
like no, I have no idea what's
happening.

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I guess it's not relevant to your day
to day life.

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Exaclty. Yeah I just feel so distant
and I keep using the same jokes from
like five years ago.

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What do you mean, in English?

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In Portuguese, people just don't
laugh, some people just don't know
what I'm talking about and I'm like,
ok, I guess I'm a bit old now, I
don't know.

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It is so funny how much that happens,
though, because so, in Melbourne we
have a street called Lygon Street
where it is renowned for its Italian
restaurants there. There are
shitloads of Italians there because
when they came over after the Second
World War, I think in the 50s and
60s, all the Italians came over they
went to the big cities and they set
up their restaurants and cafes and
pizzerias all in the same sort of
area because they wanted to sort of
have their own space, their own
little Italy. And so the funny thing
is whenever I've met Italians come to
Australia now, you know 50, 60, 70
years later, they go to Lygon Street
and they're like "I can't fucking
understand these guys".

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Really?

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They speak Italian from the south of
Italy. They speak with a different
accent. They use slang and
expressions from 70 years ago. That
has since changed so, you don't... I
never thought about that, I was
always like oh crap they are in like
a little time bubble where they've
obviously come to Australia like you
have and then they kind of distance
themselves from Italy and then
they're not constantly touching base
with Italy, with people at home like
what's the latest slang term? What's
the latest expression? And they
probably develop their own slang and
their own expressions as well and it
happened as well with my friends
parents were both French and she grew
up in Perth with them, speaking
French at home and then eventually
they came out here, I think they came
out in the 70s, but eventually she
went to France and everyone was like
"What the fuck language are you
speaking? You're using all these
strange words, you speak like someone
who is out of like the olden day
movies from there and she was like,
well, she clued on quickly and
learned the real French, but she was
like "my parents have been in
Australia and they haven't obviously
been watching TV watching, watching
the news, keeping touch with French
culture" so...

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That's exactly how I feel. If I go to
Brazil tomorrow, I'll be like...

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I got a lot of catching up to do.

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Although it hasn't been a long time
like, but still because I'm
not...Brazil makes a lot of the
language and culture is like based on
TV or like social media, you get a
lot of memes and expressions from
those sources.

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Develops very rapidly and changes
over very quickly too, right? So it
recycles very quickly.

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Exaclty, so because I'm not in touch
with those in medias anymore, I'm
like... what are you guys talking
about? There are famous people in
Brazil that I'm like I have no idea
who the person is and I keep
listening to songs they were famous
like five years ago and people are
just like "oh, you're really
traditional indeed!"

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I feel really separated from...

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I guess we'll have to sort of work
out how this is going to go with Noah
and trying to keep touch with Brazil,
but it it isn't easy, but at the same
time it must be good because you get
to see the world through two
different lenses, through different
windows where you've been here long
enough and you know English well
enough and the culture well enough to
sort of have a really good idea of
what Australia is and what an
Australian is, but you also have 30
years of 28 years of growing up in
Brazil and have your foot on two
different continents.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, guys, we're going to finish
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visa updates that have just come
through, right? Or will come through
soon.

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Next week.

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They're coming through next week on
getting your PR, is it?

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Oh, it's actually a whole
it's...There are few changes on the
Sponsored Family Visas, which
includes the partner visa.

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So, we're going to talk all about
that.

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Yeah. Yes.

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